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Where does Griffey rank among the alltime greats?

Posted on: June 11, 2008 9:15 am
 

I was listening to some sports talk show here in Chicago yesterday.  The host, who is a baseball guy and old enough to remember people like Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Banks and others from that generation claimed that at the beginning of his career that Griffey was bar-none the greatest baseball player he had ever seen, and it got me thinking who would be better from those I have seen play.  I couldn't come up with a name.  Some will point to Griffey's highest HR totals coincide with the height of the steroid era from 1996 to 1999, but if you look at his age, those were and should have been his prime years and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and partially due to that he is not a jackwad as a person, but also due to serious allegations never surfacing about Griffey in regards to steroids.  Personally I don't think a list of the to 25 players of all time is complete without him on that list and I would like to ask of you what you think of him as a player, as a person, and what he means to the game.

For me, I think it is a damn shame that his legacy will be grouped with McGwire, Bonds, Sosa and Palmeiro.  I think those names diminish the meaning of 600 HRs.  Griffey has earned every right to be alongside Aaron, Ruth and Mays in my estimation, those others have not.  While the vast majority of the population will not be able to separate the two, I would at least hope that lifelong baseball fans would be able to tell and note the difference.

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Posted on: June 11, 2008 9:35 am

Where does Griffey rank among the alltime greats?

I don't think most people group Griffey in with the drug abusers.

Had it not been for all the injuries he suffered from 2001-2004, he could have at least 75 more HR.

Junior will be in the HoF five years after he retires.



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Posted on: June 11, 2008 9:53 am

Where does Griffey rank among the alltime greats?

I am 42 years old. Of the players I have seen play there is nobobdy who compares to his power and defensive abilities. I cna say the Pete Rose was definitely the greatest hitter I ever saw. You have to go old school to compare Griffey to anoyone. Players such as Mantle, Cobb, Ruth, etc....



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Posted on: June 11, 2008 10:35 am

Where does Griffey rank among the alltime greats?

I must agree with jzinger, being 41 myself, I have always felt Griffey ranked among the best I have seen. As far as his swing, only D. Strawberry had a finer one when he was playing his best ball.

As far as power that Griffey has, I will add to the comment about his injuries. If one looks at the approx. 135 games he missed from '94-'96 and the approx. 370 games he missed from '01-06 and added in the average of .246 HR's per game, he would have approx. 135 more home runs today, putting him at 735 total and well within reach of that drug-addict Bonds.

I don't doubt that he will be a first ballot hall of famer, and will not have an asterick by any of his numbers.

 



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Posted on: June 11, 2008 1:44 pm

Where does Griffey rank among the alltime greats?

I agree with the sentiments so far.  I think among baseball guys, Griffey is marveled at.  His arrival in Cooperstown will not be delayed at all and his seat among the elites in baseball history is earned and richly deserved.  I am more talking about the casual fan who would put an asterisk around anyone who played in the steroid era.  With those people, I think Griffey's accomplishments are tainted, not because of what he himself did, but what many of the others did.  That whole guilt by association thing.  That is the shame I was getting at in the original post.  I as a huge baseball fan will do all I can to elevate the accomplishments of those whom have done it the right way, like Griffey, like Thome, like Jeter and a whole host of others over people like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds and Palmeiro.  However you cannot deny that while a big accomplishment, 600 didn't seem to garner the coverage that it deserved, and I think it is directly correlated to the fact that the last two to do so before Griffey (Bonds and Sosa) have the steroid cloud above their heads.  We as fans can hold the others accountable, yet celebrate and elevate Griffey for the same accomplishments because he did it the right way.



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